* Welcome to the Marina Dock (previously known as the Dry Dock), a non-profit facility for recovery-related meetings and workshops.
* Since 1986, it has been the most popular Twelve Step meeting location in San Francisco for people who desire to recover from alcoholism, drug addiction, and other compulsive and addictive behaviors.
* It has more AA meetings than anywhere else in The City of San Francisco - and the only place where you can buy a decent cup of coffee after 9:00 pm, any night! Drop in!
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We'd like to meet those interested in 12 Step Recovery meetings like AA, NA, MA, OA and more (See http://www.marinadock.org/links.htm for what that means) and others based on 12 Step Principles.
If you're new to recovery, or have been gratefully recovering for years, then we'd like to hear from you.
Even if you just want to drop by for the best coffee in town, and shoot the breeze with the best and brightest recovery community in town - come on down.
How and When? Check out our location in San Francisco and what meetings and workshops we offer on the Marina Dock website at http://www.marinadock.org.
Meetings at the Marina Dock
12 Step Meetings at the Marina Dock
* Alcoholics Anonymous
* Narcotics Anonymous
* Overeaters Anonymous
* Codependents Anonymous
* Alcoholics Anonymous Women's Meetings
* Midnight Meetings
* Many more: See http://www.marinadock.org/meetingdes... for our full list of meetings and http://www.marinadock.org/links.htm for the groups at the Marina Dock.
Workshops at the Marina Dock
Recovery Workshops
* Relaxation and Meditation
* Fourth Step AA
* First, Second, and Third Step AA
* See http://www.marinadock.org/workshops/... for a full list of Marina Dock Workshops.
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“August Is a Wicked Month,” or so goes the title of a 1965 novel by Edna O’ Brien. Ellen Sage is the main character and it features an actor by the name of Bobby De Niro, not much mystery there, but in 1965 De Niro was pre “Taxi Driver” and “Raging Bull” If you are a book club enthusiast and you have a hankering for those cheap European vacations of yesteryear it might be worth a gander. I thought it would be an apropos description for the current state of affairs globally and more specifically at the Marina Dock. August is truly the slowest month on our calendar, and this year no one needs to be reminded of how bad things are financially. There are so many banks going under I am considering moving my overdraft into government-backed securities. Unfortunately this is no longer a joke for the millions of people who are watching their life savings and investments evaporate overnight. Needles to say we are hurting and need your support, last month, July, funds were down to a trickle. In the final analysis we are a higher power based business operation and what happens on any given day is out of our hands, we do everything possible to keep things flowing and then we turn it over.
Our Readers Are But Trusted Servants, Sometimes:
The letter last month entitled “What Happened” definitely piqued some interest. We had quite a few responses some pro and some con, and apparently someone liked it or disliked it so much that all the Marina Dock copies disappeared from our News rack. So much for the persuasive power of numbers, and how accurate numbers can be used to bolster inaccurate arguments, here I quote the venerable Benjamin Disraeli, “there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
Statistics was never my strong suit. A few years ago I took a statistics class at Dominican University and it felt more like an Orwellian truth serum experience than anything of empirical value .The law of large numbers however did get my attention.
This is a theorem in probability that describes the long-term stability of a random variable. I think what it means is if you stick to a pattern or game plan ultimately your numbers will come up. I had visions of working out a system, taking Vegas by storm, hitting it big at the tables, and never having to ask for another donation again.
Responses to “What Happened”
Tony,
I was so surprised to read that lengthy screed from Ken C., and even more surprised that you printed it.
All of this nonsense around "only one in twenty make it." comes from the prop 36 "rehabs" and is not consistent with AA's own history or "success rate."† Our Book says clearly that people who earnestly follow our path usually succeed.† That is over 50%.
These doomsday statements scare newcomers and cause those with just a year or to t surmise they are somehow not worthy of being one out of twenty.
I do have information about what it is that really threatens AA, directly from physicians who treat alcoholics.† The MERCK MANUAL has been a desk reference for over 30 years.† Through the first 14 editions it said (to doctors reading it) that AA is the only aftercare activity that makes sense,
Sadly current editions now say that "AA used to be recommended for alcoholics after treatment, but is no longer due to the fact that people being referred or sentenced to AA have killed the heart of it:† that it is a voluntary, self-sought activity."
When THE POINT was lauding the social engineering effects of the referrals I tried to get them to at least acknowledge this dangerous trend articulated by the editors of the MERCK MANUAL, but they wouldn't.
Maybe you won't either, but at least, please don't accept any more hyperbolized opinions from AA members who have no clue what the Hell they are talking about! With love and friendship,
Jay Walker
Hi Tony,
Nice to see that piece printed in the newsletter!† I remember making several copies when Dea
My Fellow Marina Dockers:
Thank you for your generous contributions last month. About forty of our members and donors came through for us to the tune of $7.000.00, which paid our
rent and utilities for July. Two of those donations were for $1,000.00 each and the rest were for amounts varying from $500.00 to $30.00. We have about
twelve hundred people on our mailing list and if we could get forty contributions every month we would be in good shape financially. Some people donate
several times a year others donate at the end of the year and others donate whenever they can. Thank you for thinking of us we could not possibly keep our
doors open without you. This month we are enclosing The Marina Dock's financial report for 2007.
The place is as busy as ever but given the current economic climate not many people are flush right now, hopefully things will change soon, we believe
there is light at the end of a tunnel and it's not an oncoming train. In any event your support is crucial over the next few months, if you can get us into
October that would be great, things always get better in the Fall. I know that sounds like a line from Chancey Gardner in the Peter Sellers Classic "Being
There" but it 's true
From our readers:
A number of our readers expressed an interest in last months article on Alcoholism. I have no idea who wrote that piece or where I got it from and I should
have attributed it as follows "Author Unknown." Every month we try to come up with something newsworthy, hopefully something that will captivate without
being too controversial, which is in itself a challenge. I suppose at this point it might be a good idea to insert a disclaimer as follows, that The Marina
Dock publishes letters and articles submitted by our readers that are intended solely to generate interest and reflect the diversity of our readership. The
Marina Dock per se has no opinion one way or the other on the views expressed. Our goal is to be inclusive rather than exclusive therefore we encourage
comments and view from all sides of an issue, so no one theme dominates.
What Happened?
That question is being asked by a lot of alcoholics lately. What happened to our high success rate? Thirty and forty years ago we were keeping 75% or more
of the alcoholics who came to us for help. Today, we are not keeping even 5%. What happened? What happened to that wonderful A.A. group that was around for
20, 30 or 40 years? There used to be 50, 75, 100 or more at every meeting. It is now a matter of history; gone! More and more groups are folding every
day. What happened? We hear a lot of ideas, opinions and excuses as to what happened, but things are not improving. They continue to get worse. What is
happening? Bill W. wrote, "In the years ahead, A.A. will, of course, make mistakes. Experience has taught us that we need have no fear of doing this,
providing that we always remain willing to admit our faults and to correct them promptly. Our growth as individuals has depended upon this healthy process
of trial and error. So will our growth as a fellowship.
Let us always remember that any society of men and women that cannot freely correct its own faults must surely fall into decay, if not into collapse. Such
is the universal penalty for the failure to go on growing. Just as each A.A. must continue to take his moral inventory and act upon it, so must our whole
society if we are to survive and if we are to serve usefully and well." (A.A. Comes of Age, pg. 231). With so very few finding lasting sobriety and the
continued demise of A.A. groups, it is obvious that we have not remained willing to admit our faults and to correct them promptly.
Seems to me that the delegate of the Northeast Ohio Area, Bob Bacon, identified our mistakes and our faults when he talked to a group of A.A. members in
At this time we don't need to remind anyone how bad things are right now financially, evidence of the recession are everywhere to be seen, the last time I checked oil was somewhere around $137.00 a barrel. The price of goods and services are increasing daily which means everything we purchase and every bill we pay has increased almost 25% over the last six months. We definitely need your support now more than ever.
The next few months will be crucial if we can make it to October we stand a good chance of weathering this storm. But we need to get there first. Of course, right now everyone is hurting financially and we understand that, we see evidence of it everyday with people who are out of work and tapped out, nevertheless, rain or shine we continue to offer a clean, sober and safe haven for such individuals, and we need your help in doing so.
Farewell to Wade at Old St Mary's
It was a beautiful and fitting tribute to a great friend and a great man, a man of and for the people. A lot of old timers showed up to pay their respects some traveled great distances to be there, Wade's son Mike came all the way from Valentine Nebraska to participate and thank us all for being there. Chuck Quinn captured the mood and the sentiment of all of us when he eloquently described Wades humor, generosity and compassion over the forty plus years that he had know Wade and his family. I would like to thank everyone who came and paid their respects and all the people, many of them did not know Wade, who extended their sympathy to me personally at the Marina Dock.
In Sadness, Pat O'Br 1943-2008
Hello San Francisco AA
I just wanted to let you know that Pat O'Br, a long-time sober member of AA (sober 42 years) passed away on April 18th, with his family at his side. Pat got sober at Frank B's Seven Seas Club on the Embarcadero. He was active in Young Peoples' AA in the late '60's and early Seventies. Pat had been in ill health for many years. In spite of that, he had healthy spirit about him. He moved back to his hometown of Bay City, Michigan in 1996. Pat was active in AA there, particularly at the Log Cabin group. He always took time out for newcomers and introduced many to the joys of fishing. From time to time, Pat would be laid-low with his physical maladies. He would rebound from his sick-bed time and again to become involved in AA and his other love, fishing. Pat was quite a good chess player and enjoyed that over a cup of coffee. Pat's memorial was overflowing with friends from AA, old school chums and his family. Interested parties can see Pat's obituary and leave a note at legacy.commlive.com
Sincerely,
Jack Howell (email is jchowell at hotmail.com)
Patrick G. O'Br, Bay City, Michigan
Passed away Friday, April 18, 2008 at Brian's House with family at his side. Patrick was born on January 23, 1943 in Bay City to the late Marcus and Grace (Tanner) O'Br. He enjoyed fishing and spending time with family and friends. In his early years around 1955, Patrick went to St. Paul Seminary School of Divinity in Detroit and started studying to be a priest. The friends he made at AA became his second family and meant a great deal to him. He had 42 years of sobriety.
Patrick is survived by a son, Patrick Barrett of CA; two sisters, Mary Ann O'Br and Margaret McInerney, both of Bay City; three brothers: Jerome O'Br of Bay City, Neil O'Br of IL and Lawrence of NM; several nieces and nephews and great nieces and nephews. Family would like to extend a special thank you to Patrick McLean, Wayne Moore and a very special niece, Patricia. Memorial Service will be Saturday, April 26, 2007 at 5:00 p.m from Stapish Cederberg Funeral Home West.
Friends may call at the funeral home Saturday from 3:00 p.m. until time of service. Those planning an expression of sympathy may consider Family Wishes.
Published in the Bay City Times on 4/24/2008
Marina Dock Kathy, Remembers Pat
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